33bhp A2 Licence Question

ive just been on the phone to a yamaha dealer andthey are saying once i pass my a2 licence i have to ride something with 46 bhp? can i not ride anything with lower? /: as the only kit for tcat is 33bhp right? sorry if this is the wrong place i cant seem to find the right place still ggetting used to the forum, Thanks.

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Find a new dealer. An A2 licence allows you to ride up to 35 kW (46 bhp). You can still ride a moped, or 125, or whatever, so long as it doesn't exceed the power and power-to-weight restrictions. You do have to take your test on a bike of at least 395cc and 20 kW minimum (27 bhp). Also your A2 bike, if restricted, must not be more than 70 kW when full power - here, the Thundercat may actually not be suitable.

tcat is not allowed unfortunately :(

Ingyy wrote:tcat is not allowed unfortunately :(

Maybe not to take the test, but once you have an A2 licence, ~ with a 33bhp restrictor kit fitted, does the Cat not then fit into the category of bikes you can ride ?

Ingyy wrote:no because the power to weight ratio is still higher then it should be

Then it looks like you'll have to wait a bit for your Cat.   

No cats can no longer be restricted which is a pity as mine was great restricted.

The old fashioned restricted licence, which Ellie had, was 33 bhp maximum and any bike could be restricted.

The new fangled A2 licence is 45 bhp maximum but the bike must not be restricted from a bike that is more than 90 bhp when full-power. I think official numbers for the Cat put it just over this limit.

weasley wrote:The old fashioned restricted licence, which Ellie had, was 33 bhp maximum and any bike could be restricted.

The new fangled A2 licence is 45 bhp maximum but the bike must not be restricted from a bike that is more than 90 bhp when full-power.  I think official numbers for the Cat put it just over this limit.

Hmm, it does indeedy 96bhp officially (despite owners & jurno's thinking/quoting 100bhp), which coincidentally is the same as a CBF1000 (06-09), non of which is any use to Ingyy sadly   

ellie wrote:No cats can no longer be restricted which is a pity as mine was great restricted.

That is what I thought when I was following you on a rideout.
I thought you were talking porkies about the restriction.

Restricting to 33 is even worse from what I can work out, the actual wording is "The motorbike must also not be derived from a vehicle of more than double its power." Source so does that suggest if restricting to 33bhp it can't have started with more than 66?

I think it's also done on engine power rather than "at the back wheel" power, I've had the same argument about the SRAD GSXR 600 which is mostly quoted low enough to be acceptable.

To answer the original question, you don't HAVE to ride 47 bhp, you can ride smaller if you want, but Thundercat isn't on the list.

Here is the DfT A2 licence acceptable list
Looks like this puppy (XJ6-n - restricted) is on there
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OhJay wrote:Restricting to 33 is even worse from what I can work out, the actual wording is "The motorbike must also not be derived from a vehicle of more than double its power." Source so does that suggest if restricting to 33bhp it can't have started with more than 66?

I think it's also done on engine power rather than "at the back wheel" power, I've had the same argument about the SRAD GSXR 600 which is mostly quoted low enough to be acceptable.

To answer the original question, you don't HAVE to ride 47 bhp, you can ride smaller if you want, but Thundercat isn't on the list.

I think you have kW and bhp mixed up. The old 'A2' restricted licence (which was a 2 year restriction) was 25 kW or about 33 bhp; there're was no limit on what bike you could restrict. The current A2 licence limits you to 35 kW, about 46 bhp, and the bike can not be restricted from anything with more than 70 kW (about 93 bhp) as standard.