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Ride Away/Temporary insurance cover
Does anyone know any companies that do temporary bike insurance, I'm looking to pick my new bike up on Saturday but my existing policy doesn't run out for a couple of weeks. I was hoping to get some kind of bridging insurance just so I can get her home early, I'm impatient and don't want to wait but not taking out a new policy for the sake of a couple of weeks the difference is £700 or £250!! It's a no brainer but now I've put the deposit down I want want want it!!!
Any ideas folks, trawled the googles and come up with nothing, cars/vans/motorhomes no problem....bikes not happening.
Any ideas folks, trawled the googles and come up with nothing, cars/vans/motorhomes no problem....bikes not happening.
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is there any way the dealer can get insurance?
also have you checked if your current insurance allows you to ride other bikes under 3rd party cover? I know mine does, quite a useful thing to have considering i am not fully comp
also have you checked if your current insurance allows you to ride other bikes under 3rd party cover? I know mine does, quite a useful thing to have considering i am not fully comp
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Mr nutt , unfortunately you can only ride someone else's bike , jot one you just brought on your 3rd party cover ,
And snowcat unfortunately there is no company that do cover motorcycles on a short term since April 2012 as the underwriters have all pulled out of that bit of market due to people insuring for a day and writing it off , was costing them too much , did a lot of net trawling and lots of phone calls trying to insure my brother's new bike so I could collect it for him , only way is to see if you can add it to you own current policy , only other option is to be patient I'm afraid
And snowcat unfortunately there is no company that do cover motorcycles on a short term since April 2012 as the underwriters have all pulled out of that bit of market due to people insuring for a day and writing it off , was costing them too much , did a lot of net trawling and lots of phone calls trying to insure my brother's new bike so I could collect it for him , only way is to see if you can add it to you own current policy , only other option is to be patient I'm afraid
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I know Ebike used to do a month at a time policy but that was a few years ago..
I think the 3rd party thing only covers you if the bike is already insured by someone else Edave.
I think the 3rd party thing only covers you if the bike is already insured by someone else Edave.
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Riding other bikes will only cover you if the bike's not yours (otherwise you could have a fleet of bikes and only insure a CG125).
Check if your insurers will switch cover to the new bike for the remainder of the policy, or add it s a second bike.
I think all of the day/week/month cover policies have gone.
Check if your insurers will switch cover to the new bike for the remainder of the policy, or add it s a second bike.
I think all of the day/week/month cover policies have gone.
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Well I'm pretty sure the the policy says it doesn't but when they were discussing my renewal today (I haven't told them I've sold the bike yet as it's still in my care) the said the new policy was the same as the old one and included riding other bikes, only thing with that is it covers you to ride it 3rd party as you say but I was under the impression the bike needs to be insured in it's own right, i.e have a rider policy attached to it.
Patience is a virtue and I lost my virtue long ago.
Ebike still do a monthly cover policy, they wanted £214 for the month!!
Patience is a virtue and I lost my virtue long ago.
Ebike still do a monthly cover policy, they wanted £214 for the month!!
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Have you considered using a HPI check with free cover for 7 days Steve?
I've used it myself when I bought a car & it was fairly hassle free, once bought you are given a phone number to ring where you are given a no obligation insurance quote & they email you a cover note straight through, when I took mine out it was with Aviva but I see they are using Swinton now, Of course they hope you will use their services but I didnt get any hassle of them at all when I didnt use them, I'm not 100% sure if it works for bikes but I know Aviva covered them, good luck
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I've used it myself when I bought a car & it was fairly hassle free, once bought you are given a phone number to ring where you are given a no obligation insurance quote & they email you a cover note straight through, when I took mine out it was with Aviva but I see they are using Swinton now, Of course they hope you will use their services but I didnt get any hassle of them at all when I didnt use them, I'm not 100% sure if it works for bikes but I know Aviva covered them, good luck
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Phones them before Nick, unfortunately the don't cover bikes.
Thanks thanks though, worth a shot :(
Thanks thanks though, worth a shot :(
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Already tried that one Nick, says they do bikes but when you click on the link it goes round in a circle back to cars and vans. Tried putting in the reg but it doesn't recognise it and takes you back to inputting the details of your car manually.
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can,t you go to a insurance dealer take out a policy get a cover note then change your mind when you get the bike home & cancel it
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I actually considered that, I really did and I know as much as we all hate and call insurance companies it was a bit too low, even for me... plus the deposit and first installment would've been £150 and I'd have lost a portion of that Pro-rata for the time insured.kwakkat wrote:can,t you go to a insurance dealer take out a policy get a cover note then change your mind when you get the bike home & cancel it
As much as I've heard about so many people who buy bikes before passing their tests and riding them home without a license, let alone insurance it's so tempting to do but 6 points, up to £2000 fine or being the really unlucky one who smashes the bike/self up as well the thought didn't enter my head. I'm just gonna have to bide my time for a couple of weeks til all is sorted!!!
At least the insurance is set, in place and ready to go for when I have the years NCB.
Now let's have a go at that patience thing!!
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you'll need to find a new hobby for a few weeks!!
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Hand still not 100% yet so probably not the best time to try and tame a blade, especially not in this shitty weather there'll be plenty of time for riding the beast
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First concern is that you've sold the bike and not told your insurers !
There was a (true) horror story in MCN legal just recently.
Blokey sold bike, kept insewerants going to get one more years NCD (was also only a short period away).
New owner rode bike, had accident and wasn't insured. Caused lots of damage and PI claims for an at fault accident.
Turns out matey boy (original seller) was still liable, but guess what ? Cos he hadn't told insewerants they quite legaly do not have to pay claims.
Upshot, all claimants lawers are going after the original owner (seller) for FULL settlement of claims . . . TENS of THOUSANDS of ££££
Worth digging out (or perhaps MCN web searching), your old mcn's out and having a look . . .
Second, can't the dealership deliver the bike ?
OR
Could you ask the dealer (pretty please), could you ride it home on their TRADE insurance ?
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There was a (true) horror story in MCN legal just recently.
Blokey sold bike, kept insewerants going to get one more years NCD (was also only a short period away).
New owner rode bike, had accident and wasn't insured. Caused lots of damage and PI claims for an at fault accident.
Turns out matey boy (original seller) was still liable, but guess what ? Cos he hadn't told insewerants they quite legaly do not have to pay claims.
Upshot, all claimants lawers are going after the original owner (seller) for FULL settlement of claims . . . TENS of THOUSANDS of ££££
Worth digging out (or perhaps MCN web searching), your old mcn's out and having a look . . .
Second, can't the dealership deliver the bike ?
OR
Could you ask the dealer (pretty please), could you ride it home on their TRADE insurance ?
Cheers
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I did indeed read about that incident Tel, the fact is I still have the bike at the moment so no need to tell the insurance. When I drop the bike off with them this weekend it'll be without the V5 because that's awaiting a new one being issued because I've taken my plate off. Therefore although the bike will physically be in their possession it'll still be owned by me and therefore my responsibility to keep insured. They won't be getting the V5 until after my insurance expires and they've agreed to that.
I will enquire about utilising their trade insurance to ride the bike home but as I'll have to borrow their trade plates and live 40 miles away not sure they'll be up for that.
Thanks for the concern though Tel, just one of the reasons why I'll be sticking around on this forum even without the Cat
I will enquire about utilising their trade insurance to ride the bike home but as I'll have to borrow their trade plates and live 40 miles away not sure they'll be up for that.
Thanks for the concern though Tel, just one of the reasons why I'll be sticking around on this forum even without the Cat
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You're right Steve, risking riding a much bigger bike for the first time in shite weather Isnt the brightest idea.
It will be even more frustrating when you get it home & can't ride it because of the weather/salt on the roads etc lol.
All good things come to them that wait!
It will be even more frustrating when you get it home & can't ride it because of the weather/salt on the roads etc lol.
All good things come to them that wait!
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I'll have the worlds cleanest bike in the meantime though, me not able to ride her home might be a bit of a bind but once she's there she'll be in for some pampering, fairings off, wheels off, deep clean will ensue
Quite looking forward to that bit
Quite looking forward to that bit
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Hi Tel, I also read thet article in MCN, what a frightener!
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Hi Tez,
Yeah, really really scarey. If I recall correctly the bloke was staring at loosing everything he owned, and I do mean everything !! . . . well as you know, you read the article too.
The way the lawyer explained it, aparently it's legal . . . but is it right ??
Yeah, really really scarey. If I recall correctly the bloke was staring at loosing everything he owned, and I do mean everything !! . . . well as you know, you read the article too.
The way the lawyer explained it, aparently it's legal . . . but is it right ??
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I personally don't see how lawfully the insurance can wash their hands of the liability and leave it all with this poor guy, surely the fact that the insurance is in the clear leaves him without liability, surely they'd have to pursue the rider, insured or not.
Not a theory I'd like to test however !!
Not a theory I'd like to test however !!
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I think the crux of it was that the insewerants did indeedy pick up the tab. . . . . then sued the insured (seller we're talking about) for breach of contract . . . or some such.
As I said the lawyer from MCN legal explained it all and apparently there is a presidence . . . so it seems matey boy is up the preverbial creek with no paddle and a chuffin great hole in the canoe
As I said the lawyer from MCN legal explained it all and apparently there is a presidence . . . so it seems matey boy is up the preverbial creek with no paddle and a chuffin great hole in the canoe
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I think I found either that article or one very similar in Fast Bikes a couple of months ago (sept issue)...was posted under the legal Q&A session...couldn't find a version on the web that I could copy and paste so did it the long way just so everyone has the same info...really not worth leaving insurance on a bike if the below is anywhere close to being true !! Help this helps clarify
Q: I sold my triumph daytona 675 for cash to a guy from eastern europe and as I only had a month left on the insurance I decided to let it run on to get a further full year's no claims bonus. I told the DVLA and I got an acknowledgement that the bike had a new owner and so I did not think I had any problems. Unfortunately the guy who brought it hit and injured a pedestrian. I dont know the cicumstances other than the guy that brought it had no valid insurance and no british motorcycle licence.
My insurers have said they have to pick up the costs and damages to the pedestrian who I understand is pretty badly smashed up. The buyer has now skipped off to somewhere Baltic. My insurers have said that they will be coming after me for the money as I kept the bike "on risk" with them. My wife is worried sick. I am too. Am I liable for tens of thousands of pounds?
A: The bad news is I think you are - you're right to be worried sick. As a matter of statutory law (The Road Traffic Act 1988) the insurance policy affixes to the bike and any rider. Even a thief is deemed to be an insured rider. As you made the conscious decision to let the insurance continue, your insurers are liable to the third party by reason of statute of law. However, you are in fundamental breach of your contract with them and they can come after you for the money. You have left them with a legal duty to shell out for every penny and legal costs the injured pedestrian is going to get. I know you didnt mean to and if the new rider had been insured, none of this would have happened, but he wasnt insureed and this has happened. Your bike insurers will probably take a commercial view on whether it is worth coming after you. If they do, then unless you have a few tens of thousands of pounds to hand you could well be facing personal bankruptcy. You are in deep trouble and there is no easy answer. I've been on the other side of the fence, when I've acted for motorcyclists who have either been injured or killed by the driver of a vehicle who doesnt have insurance in that vehicle, but somebody else does, and I can tell you that insurance companies take a pretty hard, cold and calculating line on whether or not you are worth coming after. I think the only saving grace that you have is your house is jointly owned between you and your wife, and if I were you I would be speaking to a solicitor pretty quickly about making sure your wife's interests in the house are protected.
It is never a good idea to be anything other than 100 per cent straight with your insurance company. the rules are on their side, they know exactly what they are doing and their sole duty, in reality, is to protect their shareholders. That no claims bonus is gone and could well be costing everything you own.
Q: I sold my triumph daytona 675 for cash to a guy from eastern europe and as I only had a month left on the insurance I decided to let it run on to get a further full year's no claims bonus. I told the DVLA and I got an acknowledgement that the bike had a new owner and so I did not think I had any problems. Unfortunately the guy who brought it hit and injured a pedestrian. I dont know the cicumstances other than the guy that brought it had no valid insurance and no british motorcycle licence.
My insurers have said they have to pick up the costs and damages to the pedestrian who I understand is pretty badly smashed up. The buyer has now skipped off to somewhere Baltic. My insurers have said that they will be coming after me for the money as I kept the bike "on risk" with them. My wife is worried sick. I am too. Am I liable for tens of thousands of pounds?
A: The bad news is I think you are - you're right to be worried sick. As a matter of statutory law (The Road Traffic Act 1988) the insurance policy affixes to the bike and any rider. Even a thief is deemed to be an insured rider. As you made the conscious decision to let the insurance continue, your insurers are liable to the third party by reason of statute of law. However, you are in fundamental breach of your contract with them and they can come after you for the money. You have left them with a legal duty to shell out for every penny and legal costs the injured pedestrian is going to get. I know you didnt mean to and if the new rider had been insured, none of this would have happened, but he wasnt insureed and this has happened. Your bike insurers will probably take a commercial view on whether it is worth coming after you. If they do, then unless you have a few tens of thousands of pounds to hand you could well be facing personal bankruptcy. You are in deep trouble and there is no easy answer. I've been on the other side of the fence, when I've acted for motorcyclists who have either been injured or killed by the driver of a vehicle who doesnt have insurance in that vehicle, but somebody else does, and I can tell you that insurance companies take a pretty hard, cold and calculating line on whether or not you are worth coming after. I think the only saving grace that you have is your house is jointly owned between you and your wife, and if I were you I would be speaking to a solicitor pretty quickly about making sure your wife's interests in the house are protected.
It is never a good idea to be anything other than 100 per cent straight with your insurance company. the rules are on their side, they know exactly what they are doing and their sole duty, in reality, is to protect their shareholders. That no claims bonus is gone and could well be costing everything you own.
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That's the puppy, or if it's not, then it's as close as makes no difference.
Cheers for rooting this out . . . vinny
Cheers for rooting this out . . . vinny
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neigh worries, knew I had seen it but couldn't lay my hands on it till this morning.
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